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Message 2634 - Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 14:05:27 UTC

This major new version of the Theory application follows a similar approach as the CMS application.
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Message 2642 - Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 16:09:02 UTC

Unsent 51 In Progress 0

When requesting work on my system:

vLHCathome-dev 11 Apr 18:05:31 Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
vLHCathome-dev 11 Apr 18:05:31 Requesting new tasks for CPU
vLHCathome-dev 11 Apr 18:05:32 Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
vLHCathome-dev 11 Apr 18:05:32 No tasks sent
vLHCathome-dev 11 Apr 18:05:32 No tasks are available for Theory Simulations


Something wrong with the configuration?
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Message 2645 - Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 16:21:30 UTC - in response to Message 2642.  

I am getting the same.
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Message 2646 - Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 17:40:04 UTC - in response to Message 2645.  

The server has been restarted. If you still don't get tasks, there probably is a problem with the scheduler.
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Message 2647 - Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 17:59:57 UTC

vLHCathome-dev 11 Apr 19:57:17 CEST Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
vLHCathome-dev 11 Apr 19:57:17 CEST Requesting new tasks for CPU
vLHCathome-dev 11 Apr 19:57:18 CEST Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
vLHCathome-dev 11 Apr 19:57:18 CEST No tasks sent
vLHCathome-dev 11 Apr 19:57:18 CEST No tasks are available for Theory Simulation
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Message 2648 - Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 18:35:07 UTC - in response to Message 2646.  
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4/11/2016 8:32:31 PM | vLHCathome-dev | No tasks are available for Theory Simulation


Still no go.

Is there maybe some confusion between Theory Simulation and Theory Simulation 64 bit?
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Message 2649 - Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 18:57:11 UTC - in response to Message 2648.  

Another 200 Theory Tasks have been submitted. If this works then there is an issue with the way the BOINC scheduler is behaving with multiple applications.
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Message 2650 - Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 19:26:07 UTC - in response to Message 2649.  
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4/11/2016 9:20:32 PM | vLHCathome-dev | No tasks are available for Theory Simulation


Still nothing.

EDIT: i am also not getting LHCb tasks.

4/11/2016 9:48:25 PM | vLHCathome-dev | No tasks are available for LHCb Simulation
4/11/2016 9:48:25 PM | vLHCathome-dev | No tasks are available for Theory Simulation
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Message 2651 - Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 20:02:36 UTC - in response to Message 2650.  

We have hit this issue a few times, time to get to the bottom of it!

It looks that that message is being sent by the send_user_messages() function which intern is called by send_work() in

https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/blob/master/sched/sched_send.cpp
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Message 2652 - Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 20:10:48 UTC - in response to Message 2650.  

EDIT: i am also not getting LHCb tasks.

[quote]4/11/2016 9:48:25 PM | vLHCathome-dev | No tasks are available for LHCb Simulation
4/11/2016 9:48:25 PM | vLHCathome-dev | No tasks are available for Theory Simulation


Yes, looks like you've broken LHCb as well !
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Message 2653 - Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 20:16:48 UTC - in response to Message 2652.  

Am i good, or what?
Maybe i can break CMS tasks as well.

Just kiddin.

Maybe, disable CMS task for a bit and see, if the server can send other tasks, then.
(or break CMS-tasks)
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Message 2654 - Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 20:19:00 UTC - in response to Message 2653.  

CMS not broken yet, just got one :-)
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Message 2655 - Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 20:22:13 UTC - in response to Message 2651.  
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Maybe, it is related to the automatic topup of CMS-tasks, that kept the tasks to send at a constant value.

Or, they are classified as "test apps", even though there is not tick box for that in the settings.
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Message 2656 - Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 20:41:26 UTC

I just got a theory task!
I set the work buffer to max.
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Message 2657 - Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 20:43:15 UTC - in response to Message 2655.  

We were using the make_work command but it creates work evenly so end up with different amounts of unsent tasks for each application. It also prefixes all tasks with wu_ so using create_work instead will also resolve this issue (I didn't forget CP!).

http://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/vLHCathome-dev/forum_thread.php?id=114&postid=2419#2419

Rom just suggested using --allapps on the feeder daemon. Have just updated the configuration and restarted the sever so let us know if that helps.
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Message 2658 - Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 20:48:32 UTC - in response to Message 2657.  

How long should that take to percolate through ?

Not working at the moment.
Only have 1 CMS task and preferences are for all projects, cache is at 4 days, only 1 cpu out of 4 being used.
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Message 2659 - Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 20:53:15 UTC - in response to Message 2658.  

3 Theory tasks are now in progress somewhere !
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Message 2660 - Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 20:57:20 UTC - in response to Message 2659.  

I got a second one, but they errorout after a few minutes.
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Message 2661 - Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 21:09:05 UTC - in response to Message 2660.  

Can't get one on my laptop that has a CMS task running and nothing else.
Just found I have one on another machine I swapped from LHCb earlier I left it to it (machines is busy running lots of other stuff).
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Message 2662 - Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 21:11:51 UTC - in response to Message 2661.  

...and it is busy initialising Hadron Displays and top shows Sherpa is running at 95% :-)
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