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Message 3081 - Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 18:47:36 UTC

Similar to me, but I removed my own version before requesting a CMS-task.
No app_config.xml was downloaded.
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Message 3082 - Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 19:26:09 UTC
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I sacrificed another couple of tasks on another host and "hid" my own app_config.
2 Theorys and a CMS downloaded AND the default app_config. It would, perhaps have been better to allow only CMS to download for proper testing of this as the app_config may have been only associated with Theory, with CP not getting one with his CMS download.
I quickly replaced my own and have returned to normal operation.

Recap;
-Existing app_config didn't block download of CMS with addition.
-Default app_config downloads with Theory if none already present (however, it might not take effect until Host or Boinc are restarted, or manual "Read config files"?)
-Theory 0.04 and CMS47.02 both happily processing events.
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Message 3083 - Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 20:16:21 UTC - in response to Message 3082.  


Recap;

...-Default app_config downloads with Theory if none already present (however, it might not take effect until Host or Boinc are restarted, or manual "Read config files"?)


Yes, I restarted BOINC, and then received this notification from BOINC Manager:

    vLHCathome-dev: Notice from BOINC
    Your app_config.xml file refers to an unknown application 'ALICE'. Known applications: 'LHCb', 'CMS', 'Theory', 'ATLAS'
    4/28/2016 4:12:17 PM

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Message 3084 - Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 20:29:22 UTC - in response to Message 3083.  
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You can safely ignore that message for now. The ALICE app has been included in the app_config, even though it's not available yet, so that when it does get released, there doesn't need to be another edit.
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Message 3085 - Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 20:30:04 UTC - in response to Message 3083.  

That is normal, as you have not run an ALICE app (there is not one, yet)
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Message 3089 - Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 22:28:11 UTC - in response to Message 3082.  

So this approach seems like it might be a solution. How many tasks do people have queued? Although this approach may only run one task, many could be downloaded.
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Message 3095 - Posted: 29 Apr 2016, 7:06:52 UTC - in response to Message 3089.  
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How many tasks do people have queued? Although this approach may only run one task, many could be downloaded.

You've set the maximum to 5 tasks per host together whatever application.
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Message 3096 - Posted: 29 Apr 2016, 7:46:16 UTC

vLHC 32-bit is running in OpenSuse(x64) 13.2 and 42.1 Guest's under Windows.

They use Boinc 7.2.42 and running with ONE CPU.

Boinc get the message (Info):

This Computer has reached a limit on tasks in progress.

The next task is only sending from the Server in the last two hours,
when the active task will be finished.

This run without app_config.xml.

Maybe this will help as a info.
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Message 3097 - Posted: 29 Apr 2016, 9:21:24 UTC

Computer 1164 as a Guest under Windows:
OpenSuse(x64)-13.2. Boinc 7.2.42 - Virtualbox: 5.0.18_SUSEr106667

vlhcathome-dev Notice from Boinc:

Found app_config.xml

Your app_config.xml file refers to an unknown application 'ATLAS'.
Your app_config.xml file refers to an unknown application 'ALICE'
Your app_config.xml file refers to an unknown application 'CMS'
Known application: 'LHCb', 'Theory'
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Message 3101 - Posted: 29 Apr 2016, 11:16:22 UTC - in response to Message 3097.  

As per my reply to a similar question last night:
You can safely ignore that message for now. ALL the current and up-coming applications have been included in the app_config, even though ALICE isn't available yet, so that when it does get released, there doesn't need to be another edit. It just means your host hasn't got that, or those, apps yet. When it does, the relevant message will go away.
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Message 3102 - Posted: 29 Apr 2016, 11:22:32 UTC
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If the task Flops estimate (therefore run-time estimate based on host benchmarks) is anywhere near accurate, Boinc should take care of how much work is downloaded depending on user preferences, up to any max set by the project.
Tasks known to have an 18hr runtime but estimates of 12mins, or in some cases 4days, can confuse that calculation resulting in too much work or not enough.
eg. My 2core host gets the same number of tasks as the 4thread one.

Limits set by an app_config are NOT taken into that equation.
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Message 3104 - Posted: 29 Apr 2016, 11:28:47 UTC - in response to Message 3102.  

Sounds like I have to delve into the dark arts.
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Message 3105 - Posted: 29 Apr 2016, 11:30:49 UTC - in response to Message 3102.  
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Message 3108 - Posted: 29 Apr 2016, 21:23:44 UTC

A restart of Boinc to "gracefully" end a couple of tasks triggered the replacement of my app_config with the default one, again.

29/04/2016 17:29:19 | vLHCathome-dev | File projects/lhcathomedev.cern.ch_vLHCathome-dev/app_config.xml has wrong size: expected 411, got 685

I'll be setting CP's don't_check_file_size line below in my cc_config
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Message 3114 - Posted: 30 Apr 2016, 6:52:11 UTC - in response to Message 3097.  
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I get the same message on my SuSE Leap 42.1 Linux host.
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Message 3115 - Posted: 30 Apr 2016, 7:01:40 UTC - in response to Message 3114.  

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Message 3198 - Posted: 3 May 2016, 17:24:52 UTC

Laurence: BOINC Manager is still saying

vLHCathome-dev: Notice from BOINC
Your app_config.xml file refers to an unknown application 'ALICE'. Known applications: 'CMS', 'Theory', 'LHCb', 'ATLAS'
03/05/2016 17:25:00
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Message 3199 - Posted: 3 May 2016, 18:04:15 UTC
Last modified: 3 May 2016, 18:05:00 UTC

Just read the message before yours.
It has been asked and answered a number of times.
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