Development for LHC@home

Boinc 8.2.4 is now including Docker.
With Docker nearly all Task finishing in 10 days for me.

In reply to maeax's message of 12 Jul 2025:

Boinc 8.2.4 is now including Docker

Windows only, for the moment.

In reply to [AF>Le_Pommier] Jerome_C2005's message of 12 Jul 2025:

It is epidemic



You can see the deadline is always 10 hours before the estimated end date !

They are all v7.61, unlike the huge one I mentioned above and that finally failed.

So what ? 7.61 tasks are more reliable and I can trust that they will end in time ?

Or I'd better cancel them always if they take like more than one day because "you never know if they will end", and then all this CPU crunch time will be lost forever in oblivion, systematically ?

Wonderful: the longest task failed after 7 days (before the deadline), the 2nd one succeeded, and the last one failed too after 2 days.

I actually realize I have 17 theory tasks that failed, 6 are docker tasks that fail almost immediately (see this other topic about it, it never works on Mac) and the 11 other are vbox tasks that fail after a significant running time.

Vs 258 valid tasks, so that's a 6% error rate, I don't know if this is "quite normal" or not.

4 long runners cancelled this morning by LHCdev with 5 & 6 days running on my mac.

https://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/lhcathome-dev/result.php?resultid=3486727
https://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/lhcathome-dev/result.php?resultid=3486726
https://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/lhcathome-dev/result.php?resultid=3486738
https://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/lhcathome-dev/result.php?resultid=3486729

Adios.

5 long running tasks aborted on my host after on server side the status was changed to "no reaction". Feels like a waist. Some tasks were still showing progress in events processed in the runRivet.log file, others were just eating cpu-time. Is there a way to transform this long running tasks to useful information for the project?

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In reply to TeeVeeEss's message of 1 Nov 2025:

Is there a way to transform this long running tasks to useful information for the project?

+1

As I mentioned before I only run these with Windows Theory version 7.64 (vbox64_theory) and have many long runners and at times when I am busy and don't check they can be running and doing nothing and that is a waste of your computer time but you can get long ones that are running and all you have to is check the running logs to see it they are still running.

Takes about 15 seconds to look and if they are still running after a few days I let them run and have had them Valid over 10 days before but they usually end up finished between 2 and 9 days and you get plenty of credits for it too.

Had some over at production too but certain clowns deleted all the saved info I had.

In reply to Magic Quantum Mechanic's message of 25 Nov 2025:

As I mentioned before I only run these with Windows Theory version 7.64 (vbox64_theory) and have many long runners and at times when I am busy and don't check they can be running and doing nothing and that is a waste of your computer time but you can get long ones that are running and all you have to is check the running logs to see it they are still running.

If they introduced the checkpoints...

https://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/lhcathome-dev/result.php?resultid=3616541

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Mad Scientist For Life

https://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/lhcathome-dev/workunit.php?wuid=2785714
Theory_2922-4864482-932_2
3772084 5495 14 May 2026, 7:10:02 UTC 15 May 2026, 11:35:00 UTC Abgebrochen 101,966.99 96,055.96 --- Theory Simulation v7.66 (docker)
windows_x86_64
3772693 5326 15 May 2026, 12:37:29 UTC 17 May 2026, 10:29:20 UTC Abgebrochen 165,094.45 156,151.70 --- Theory Simulation v7.66 (docker)
windows_x86_64
3773334 4639 18 May 2026, 9:49:34 UTC 28 May 2026, 9:49:34 UTC In Bearbeitung --- --- --- Theory Simulation v7.66 (docker)
windows_x86_64

Giving this Task no chance to finish in a good way?
Mon May 18 09:57:16 UTC 2026 [boinc pp mb-inelastic 53 - - pythia8 8.306 dire-default 7000 932]

In reply to maeax's message of 18 May 2026:

https://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/lhcathome-dev/workunit.php?wuid=2785714
Giving this Task no chance to finish in a good way?
Mon May 18 09:57:16 UTC 2026 [boinc pp mb-inelastic 53 - - pythia8 8.306 dire-default 7000 932]

No successes from the nine attempts sent.

Yes I aborted that one when I checked it and it had stopped running at a certain point
I tend to watch all of my dockers with my slots page that I leave up to see if they ever quit running

In reply to Magic Quantum Mechanic's message of 18 May 2026:

Yes I aborted that one when I checked it and it had stopped running at a certain point
I tend to watch all of my dockers with my slots page that I leave up to see if they ever quit running

+1
When a wu exceeds 6hrs of running, i delete it

In reply to boboviz's message of 19 May 2026:

In reply to Magic Quantum Mechanic's message of 18 May 2026:

Yes I aborted that one when I checked it and it had stopped running at a certain point
I tend to watch all of my dockers with my slots page that I leave up to see if they ever quit running

+1
When a wu exceeds 6hrs of running, i delete it

(and i don't like it)

Abgebrochen 176,525.53 172,897.50 --- Theory Simulation v7.66 (docker) windows_x86_64

Computer 4639 21 May 2026, 17:28:28 UTC 24 May 2026, 22:05:53 UTC
Fertig und Bestätigt 275,025.18 262,420.10 4,737.76

Three day doing this Theory task!

I have 2 wus running for 3 days.
VERY long runners :-P

In reply to boboviz's message of 19 Jun 2026:

I have 2 wus running for 3 days.
VERY long runners :-P

Over at prod (which gets it's work from the same backend):
Walltime >6 days.
It will succeed, no doubt.

===> [runRivet] Fri Jun 12 22:03:20 UTC 2026 [boinc pp jets 13000 150 - pythia8 8.235 CP1-CR1 100000 1128]
...
97000 events processed

In reply to computezrmle's message of 19 Jun 2026:

It will succeed, no doubt.

===> [runRivet] Fri Jun 12 22:03:20 UTC 2026 [boinc pp jets 13000 150 - pythia8 8.235 CP1-CR1 100000 1128]
...
97000 events processed

So, finally as expected:

Name 	Theory_2922-4791921-1128_1781300023_0
Workunit 	242136929
Created 	12 Jun 2026, 21:33:46 UTC
Sent 	12 Jun 2026, 21:40:05 UTC
Report deadline 	23 Jun 2026, 21:40:05 UTC
Received 	19 Jun 2026, 12:30:05 UTC
Server state 	Over
Outcome 	Success
Client state 	Done
Exit status 	0 (0x00000000)
Computer ID 	10598261
Run time 	6 days 14 hours 26 min 41 sec
CPU time 	6 days 4 hours 9 min 5 sec
Priority 	0
Validate state 	Valid
Credit 	7,993.47
Device peak FLOPS 	6.05 GFLOPS
Application version 	Theory Simulation v302.10 (docker)
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Peak working set size 	55.63 MB
Peak swap size 	2.45 GB
Peak disk usage 	1.49 MB

Interesting log into stderr.txt

docker_wrapper 22 starting
docker_wrapper config:
workdir: /boinc_slot_dir
use GPU: no
create args: --cap-add=SYS_ADMIN --device /dev/fuse
verbose: 1
Using WSL distro boinc-buda-runner
Using podman
container state: Exited (0) 292 years ago

This wus is generated when Spanish army under Don Carlos III draws into Naples... :-P

In reply to boboviz's message of 20 Jun 2026:

Interesting log into stderr.txt

docker_wrapper 22 starting
docker_wrapper config:
workdir: /boinc_slot_dir
use GPU: no
create args: --cap-add=SYS_ADMIN --device /dev/fuse
verbose: 1
Using WSL distro boinc-buda-runner
Using podman
container state: Exited (0) 292 years ago

This wus is generated when Spanish army under Don Carlos III draws into Naples... :-P

Should be rewarded with ~160e06 credit points.
;-)