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Message 9073 - Posted: 18 Sep 2025, 12:58:03 UTC - in response to Message 9071.  

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Good thing I'm not in a hurry

Neither me, even if some of my wus are near to the deadline

But i'm just curious if this is a bug or this is the normal behaviour of the app.
Because if it is "normal", we have a problem
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Message 9074 - Posted: 18 Sep 2025, 16:08:59 UTC - in response to Message 9073.  

Finally I returned my one and only Xtrack simulation after > 70 hours processing time. Now waiting for the wingman's result. https://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/lhcathome-dev/result.php?resultid=3503609
I really don't like such long runners with inpredictable runtime.
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Message 9075 - Posted: 18 Sep 2025, 18:34:52 UTC

https://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/lhcathome-dev/result.php?resultid=3493939
I have many of them pending with over 100 hours of run time
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Message 9077 - Posted: 19 Sep 2025, 6:44:19 UTC - in response to Message 9037.  

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I see this error in all my wus.
May be this the problem?
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Message 9078 - Posted: 19 Sep 2025, 7:22:19 UTC - in response to Message 9077.  
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I looked around at many of them both Valid and Pending and they all seem to have that same stderr for Windows but I don't see that at a Linux I am looking at right now
https://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/lhcathome-dev/result.php?resultid=3493980
https://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/lhcathome-dev/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5394

And it looks like the OS is the difference since that pc is not one you would expect to be able to do anything with a VB task and is like the old pc's for Sixtracks we first had running 15+ years ago

Here is another Linux https://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/lhcathome-dev/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4911
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Message 9079 - Posted: 19 Sep 2025, 8:08:50 UTC - in response to Message 9078.  

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And it looks like the OS is the difference since that pc is not one you would expect to be able to do anything with a VB task and is like the old pc's for Sixtracks we first had running 15+ years ago


Very interesting!!!
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Message 9080 - Posted: 19 Sep 2025, 8:27:42 UTC

Win11pro start an Ubuntu inside.
wsl -v in CMD get info for Ubuntu.
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Message 9082 - Posted: 20 Sep 2025, 4:28:47 UTC

My longest so far was 3 days 6 hours
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Message 9083 - Posted: 20 Sep 2025, 5:55:05 UTC

Got 1 finished in 9 hours on a i7-1165G7 with Win11. The ones running in parallel are still going strong at around 20 hours

2 more finished in 12-13 hours on a Ryzen 7 5825U with Mint 22.1, the others also keep running at around 20 hours.
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Message 9084 - Posted: 20 Sep 2025, 7:07:24 UTC
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I have many of them over 100 hours each still pending (90)

Got this one that is over 5 days and barely any Credits https://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/lhcathome-dev/result.php?resultid=3493959
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Message 9085 - Posted: 20 Sep 2025, 7:18:52 UTC

Fertig und BestÃĪtigt 433,920.28 142,282.10 109.78
You have now Credit for this Task.
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Message 9086 - Posted: 20 Sep 2025, 7:26:35 UTC - in response to Message 9085.  
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https://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/lhcathome-dev/result.php?resultid=3493959
That one is pretty funny and I had posted it on the thread before I saw your message

So far I only have 4 long ones with credits and 90 still pending
I might run some more on this 28 core and see what happens since we have thousands of them.
It looks like the "progress" time is working better now instead of running at 100% in a couple minutes
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Message 9087 - Posted: 20 Sep 2025, 9:03:47 UTC

Yes, there are so many Xtrack Tasks to do for the user wingman (poor boy ;-))
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Message 9088 - Posted: 20 Sep 2025, 9:57:48 UTC - in response to Message 9087.  

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Yes, there are so many Xtrack Tasks to do for the user wingman (poor boy ;-))

You were lucky having AnandBhat as your wingman
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Message 9089 - Posted: 20 Sep 2025, 12:51:59 UTC

I now have 4 tasks that past the deadline, on the site it seems they are still pending and not cancelled

camontan__tune_scan_end_of_collapse_round_scan_170__fine_scan_9__hSEQgy3DaiBU_1
camontan__tune_scan_end_of_collapse_round_scan_127__fine_scan_10__gITYpQWzTGKW_1
camontan__tune_scan_end_of_collapse_round_scan_170__fine_scan_10__Vkr6EX0H8Y6g_1
camontan__tune_scan_end_of_collapse_round_scan_168__fine_scan_7__uTLdRHAlTpGl_0

First one has more than 2 days running.
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Message 9090 - Posted: 20 Sep 2025, 14:11:53 UTC - in response to Message 9086.  

In reply to Magic Quantum Mechanic's message of 20 Sep 2025:
So far I only have 4 long ones with credits and 90 still pending


Mine are only 42, but i have some wus pending since 09/12....8 days ago!! :-O
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Message 9091 - Posted: 20 Sep 2025, 15:09:59 UTC

Pretty much all my tasks have the same wingman.
Doesn't look good at all.
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Message 9092 - Posted: 20 Sep 2025, 21:41:08 UTC
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These 2 ended and were credited

camontan__tune_scan_end_of_collapse_round_scan_170__fine_scan_9__hSEQgy3DaiBU_1
camontan__tune_scan_end_of_collapse_round_scan_127__fine_scan_10__gITYpQWzTGKW_1

These 2 are still running

camontan__tune_scan_end_of_collapse_round_scan_170__fine_scan_10__Vkr6EX0H8Y6g_1
camontan__tune_scan_end_of_collapse_round_scan_168__fine_scan_7__uTLdRHAlTpGl_0

They are completely distorting boinc time estimation because all the tasks downloaded are estimated to 39mn calculation, so boinc will keep them extremely close to the deadline and let them start when there is no way they can meet the deadline.

I do hope they all get finally credited, but there is something very wrong in the way they are handled.

On the other hand unlike people above most of my tasks are very quickly validated and credited, I see only 10% pending.
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Message 9093 - Posted: 21 Sep 2025, 4:09:55 UTC - in response to Message 9092.  

On the other hand unlike people above most of my tasks are very quickly validated and credited, I see only 10% pending.


Consider yourself lucky with your wingmen. Mine still hasn't finished a single task out of almost 2000 and over 1000 have timed out.

The newer ones I'm getting were aborted by both initial users, but task #3 is unsent so there's no chance for my results to validate in the near future.

There are also cases like this, where one of the original tasks for aborted, one is finished, but the third replicate remains unsent for over 2 days. Again, long wait for any potential validation.
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Message 9094 - Posted: 21 Sep 2025, 4:10:29 UTC - in response to Message 9092.  
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Accidental double post, please delete.
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