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Send message Joined: 24 Oct 19 Posts: 276 Credit: 800,403 RAC: 3,728 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
In reply to Magic Quantum Mechanic's message of 18 Sep 2025: Good thing I'm not in a hurry Neither me, even if some of my wus are near to the deadline But i'm just curious if this is a bug or this is the normal behaviour of the app. Because if it is "normal", we have a problem |
Send message Joined: 13 Feb 15 Posts: 1252 Credit: 995,923 RAC: 37 ![]() ![]() |
Finally I returned my one and only Xtrack simulation after > 70 hours processing time. Now waiting for the wingman's result. https://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/lhcathome-dev/result.php?resultid=3503609 I really don't like such long runners with inpredictable runtime. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 8 Apr 15 Posts: 834 Credit: 15,366,858 RAC: 9,935 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
https://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/lhcathome-dev/result.php?resultid=3493939 I have many of them pending with over 100 hours of run time Mad Scientist For Life ![]() |
Send message Joined: 24 Oct 19 Posts: 276 Credit: 800,403 RAC: 3,728 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
In reply to Magic Quantum Mechanic's message of 13 Sep 2025: I see this error in all my wus. May be this the problem? |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 8 Apr 15 Posts: 834 Credit: 15,366,858 RAC: 9,935 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I looked around at many of them both Valid and Pending and they all seem to have that same stderr for Windows but I don't see that at a Linux I am looking at right now https://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/lhcathome-dev/result.php?resultid=3493980 https://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/lhcathome-dev/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5394 And it looks like the OS is the difference since that pc is not one you would expect to be able to do anything with a VB task and is like the old pc's for Sixtracks we first had running 15+ years ago Here is another Linux https://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/lhcathome-dev/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4911 |
Send message Joined: 24 Oct 19 Posts: 276 Credit: 800,403 RAC: 3,728 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
In reply to Magic Quantum Mechanic's message of 19 Sep 2025: And it looks like the OS is the difference since that pc is not one you would expect to be able to do anything with a VB task and is like the old pc's for Sixtracks we first had running 15+ years ago Very interesting!!! |
Send message Joined: 22 Apr 16 Posts: 782 Credit: 4,057,880 RAC: 3,438 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Win11pro start an Ubuntu inside. wsl -v in CMD get info for Ubuntu. |
Send message Joined: 19 Aug 15 Posts: 75 Credit: 3,647,987 RAC: 57 ![]() ![]() |
My longest so far was 3 days 6 hours |
Send message Joined: 19 Sep 25 Posts: 24 Credit: 19,188 RAC: 415 |
Got 1 finished in 9 hours on a i7-1165G7 with Win11. The ones running in parallel are still going strong at around 20 hours 2 more finished in 12-13 hours on a Ryzen 7 5825U with Mint 22.1, the others also keep running at around 20 hours. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 8 Apr 15 Posts: 834 Credit: 15,366,858 RAC: 9,935 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I have many of them over 100 hours each still pending (90) Got this one that is over 5 days and barely any Credits https://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/lhcathome-dev/result.php?resultid=3493959 |
Send message Joined: 22 Apr 16 Posts: 782 Credit: 4,057,880 RAC: 3,438 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Fertig und BestÃĪtigt 433,920.28 142,282.10 109.78 You have now Credit for this Task. |
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https://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/lhcathome-dev/result.php?resultid=3493959 That one is pretty funny and I had posted it on the thread before I saw your message So far I only have 4 long ones with credits and 90 still pending I might run some more on this 28 core and see what happens since we have thousands of them. It looks like the "progress" time is working better now instead of running at 100% in a couple minutes ![]() |
Send message Joined: 22 Apr 16 Posts: 782 Credit: 4,057,880 RAC: 3,438 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Yes, there are so many Xtrack Tasks to do for the user wingman (poor boy ;-)) |
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In reply to maeax's message of 20 Sep 2025: Yes, there are so many Xtrack Tasks to do for the user wingman (poor boy ;-)) You were lucky having AnandBhat as your wingman ![]() |
Send message Joined: 17 Mar 15 Posts: 106 Credit: 1,038,379 RAC: 355 ![]() ![]() |
I now have 4 tasks that past the deadline, on the site it seems they are still pending and not cancelled camontan__tune_scan_end_of_collapse_round_scan_170__fine_scan_9__hSEQgy3DaiBU_1 camontan__tune_scan_end_of_collapse_round_scan_127__fine_scan_10__gITYpQWzTGKW_1 camontan__tune_scan_end_of_collapse_round_scan_170__fine_scan_10__Vkr6EX0H8Y6g_1 camontan__tune_scan_end_of_collapse_round_scan_168__fine_scan_7__uTLdRHAlTpGl_0 First one has more than 2 days running. |
Send message Joined: 24 Oct 19 Posts: 276 Credit: 800,403 RAC: 3,728 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
In reply to Magic Quantum Mechanic's message of 20 Sep 2025: So far I only have 4 long ones with credits and 90 still pending Mine are only 42, but i have some wus pending since 09/12....8 days ago!! :-O |
Send message Joined: 19 Sep 25 Posts: 24 Credit: 19,188 RAC: 415 |
Pretty much all my tasks have the same wingman. Doesn't look good at all. |
Send message Joined: 17 Mar 15 Posts: 106 Credit: 1,038,379 RAC: 355 ![]() ![]() |
These 2 ended and were credited camontan__tune_scan_end_of_collapse_round_scan_170__fine_scan_9__hSEQgy3DaiBU_1 camontan__tune_scan_end_of_collapse_round_scan_127__fine_scan_10__gITYpQWzTGKW_1 These 2 are still running camontan__tune_scan_end_of_collapse_round_scan_170__fine_scan_10__Vkr6EX0H8Y6g_1 camontan__tune_scan_end_of_collapse_round_scan_168__fine_scan_7__uTLdRHAlTpGl_0 They are completely distorting boinc time estimation because all the tasks downloaded are estimated to 39mn calculation, so boinc will keep them extremely close to the deadline and let them start when there is no way they can meet the deadline. I do hope they all get finally credited, but there is something very wrong in the way they are handled. On the other hand unlike people above most of my tasks are very quickly validated and credited, I see only 10% pending. |
Send message Joined: 19 Sep 25 Posts: 24 Credit: 19,188 RAC: 415 |
On the other hand unlike people above most of my tasks are very quickly validated and credited, I see only 10% pending. Consider yourself lucky with your wingmen. Mine still hasn't finished a single task out of almost 2000 and over 1000 have timed out. The newer ones I'm getting were aborted by both initial users, but task #3 is unsent so there's no chance for my results to validate in the near future. There are also cases like this, where one of the original tasks for aborted, one is finished, but the third replicate remains unsent for over 2 days. Again, long wait for any potential validation. |
Send message Joined: 19 Sep 25 Posts: 24 Credit: 19,188 RAC: 415 |
Accidental double post, please delete. |
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