Message boards : General Discussion : Xtrack beam simulation v0.04
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Send message Joined: 19 Sep 25 Posts: 24 Credit: 19,188 RAC: 415 |
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In reply to ChelseaOilman's message of 24 Sep 2025: What a bunch of clowns! I have over 700 tasks that will never get validated!You shouldn't run Develop-Projects if you think so |
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Send message Joined: 19 Sep 25 Posts: 24 Credit: 19,188 RAC: 415 |
In reply to Garrulus glandarius's message of 24 Sep 2025: See some explanations here The new short batch got cancelled as well. Time to abort again. |
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Send message Joined: 20 Jun 17 Posts: 38 Credit: 6,492,588 RAC: 2,777 
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Whelp F this if they're going to delete work. I had completed what I wanted to but was running what I had left so others could validate but the admins said no to that. In reply to Yeti's message of 24 Sep 2025: In reply to ChelseaOilman's message of 24 Sep 2025: Tasks are being dumped on prod too. Its one of the worst things an admin can do IMO. |
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Send message Joined: 22 Apr 16 Posts: 782 Credit: 4,057,880 RAC: 3,438
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In reply to mmonnin's message of 24 Sep 2025: Tasks are being dumped on prod too. Its one of the worst things an admin can do IMO. and now? |
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Send message Joined: 19 Sep 25 Posts: 24 Credit: 19,188 RAC: 415 |
In reply to maeax's message of 25 Sep 2025: In reply to mmonnin's message of 24 Sep 2025: Now there are only Theory tasks in prod and the odd ATLAS resend. |
 Send message Joined: 28 Jul 16 Posts: 527 Credit: 400,710 RAC: 0 |
Even on the prod site Xtrack is clearly marked as beta app which needs explicit opt-in. Cancelling a whole batch may be necessary to avoid badly configured tasks hang around for a long time. Beta apps always need close monitoring by the user and it would be a good idea to start with a small buffer of few tasks instead of many hundreds. If anybody can't deal with it, disable beta apps and wait for a stable version. |
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Send message Joined: 22 Apr 16 Posts: 782 Credit: 4,057,880 RAC: 3,438
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In reply to computezrmle's message of 25 Sep 2025:
User accept no Beta in Production. There is some support for this definition of B E T A needed. |
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Send message Joined: 28 Jul 16 Posts: 527 Credit: 400,710 RAC: 0 |
There's a clear definition here: https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/wiki/AppVersion https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/wiki/BetaTest Apps on the dev site are always beta. Xtrack on prod is clearly marked as beta test here: https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/apps.php To get beta tasks it must be enabled here: https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/prefs.php?subset=project q.e.d. |
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Send message Joined: 24 Oct 19 Posts: 276 Credit: 800,403 RAC: 3,728 
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In reply to computezrmle's message of 25 Sep 2025: There's a clear definition here: From LHC forum, today Laurence (an LHC@home admin) about XBoinc app: Even if an application appears solid in the development project, the production project is a different environment, running at scale. Labeling the application as beta reflects that difference and is intended to set expectations. It also allows volunteers who want to focus solely on crunching, without engaging in the development process, to do so. |
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Send message Joined: 20 Jun 17 Posts: 38 Credit: 6,492,588 RAC: 2,777
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Hmm When I look at the top of this site it says Development for LHC. Beta should be here, not there. Changes were made between Dev and Prod and tasks were deleted off both instead of introducing new tasks here with the changes. |
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Send message Joined: 19 Sep 25 Posts: 24 Credit: 19,188 RAC: 415 |
Any info on the 10k tasks that were released in production? |
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