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Message 1958 - Posted: 11 Feb 2016, 8:52:46 UTC

Please post here any issues/comments that are specifically related to the handling of BOINC credit.
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Message 1960 - Posted: 11 Feb 2016, 9:37:56 UTC - in response to Message 1958.  
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Difficult to realize, I think, but credit based on real work done (jobs, events) is to be preferred over the BOINC credit new algorithm.
Fixed credit for a certain batch, because mostly the jobs differs per batch.

See the tasks of the 2 top hosts:

http://boincai05.cern.ch/CMS-dev/results.php?hostid=975
http://boincai05.cern.ch/CMS-dev/results.php?hostid=978

Only hanging around for 24 or 36 hours, but examining the cpu time and results, no work done at all.
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Message 2684 - Posted: 12 Apr 2016, 14:21:27 UTC

Has anyone noticed a change in their granted credit per task (or per cpu-hour) lately? Unfortunately my machine hasn't received tasks for several days -- I just suspended seti@home to force some tasks but it will be >12 hours before they finish.
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Message 2685 - Posted: 12 Apr 2016, 14:49:19 UTC - in response to Message 2684.  

Has anyone noticed a change in their granted credit per task (or per cpu-hour) lately?

Yes I did.

After a bunch of CMS-tasks without a job for the run and therefore killed soon (so very short running tasks with almost no CPU) the credit was lowered.
But with the first task doing real jobs, the credit was still low, but meanwhile slowly rising.

That's the price for the use of BOINC's new-credit system.

http://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/vLHCathome-dev/results.php?hostid=37&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=1
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Message 2689 - Posted: 12 Apr 2016, 15:00:37 UTC - in response to Message 2685.  

I ran a CMS task overnight whilst also trying unsuccessfully for Theory tasks on an i3 laptop.

Approx 46k run, 43k cpu, 217 credit

Was the end of March when I last ran a working one on the same machine, that gave:

Approx 61k run, 54k cpu, 230 credit

Only used to get about 470 credits when running the previous 24 hour tasks.
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Message 2692 - Posted: 12 Apr 2016, 17:22:11 UTC - in response to Message 2689.  

OK, so what do you think of these results?
http://boincai05.cern.ch/CMS-dev/results.php?hostid=439
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Message 2694 - Posted: 12 Apr 2016, 17:47:24 UTC - in response to Message 2692.  

OK, so what do you think of these results?
http://boincai05.cern.ch/CMS-dev/results.php?hostid=439

The owner should invite us for a party ;-P
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Message 2699 - Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 7:27:54 UTC - in response to Message 2694.  

OK, so what do you think of these results?
http://boincai05.cern.ch/CMS-dev/results.php?hostid=439

The owner should invite us for a party ;-P



Reminds me of another Cern project
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Message 2704 - Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 9:41:53 UTC

I had a look through the stats for other similar machines, this one: http://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/vLHCathome-dev/show_host_detail.php?hostid=455 is currently getting the credits that I would expect. 455 is running Windows 8.1, 439 is still on XP, surely Windows hasn't got so much worse ?

Looking back to middle/beginning of March, machine 439 was also getting more normal credit for the tasks run then.

I'd expect an i7 running at 4+ GHz with SSD and fast internet to be getting about 1,200 per day if lucky. Can't see why a Xeon at 3.4GHz from 2011 would get 5 or 6 times that for a day.

So if the user hasn't done anything why is your project now giving out inflated credit to some machines and not others ?
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Message 2706 - Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 9:54:51 UTC

I have been getting less than 10 credits for a full CMS task.
On t4t i am getting around 100 credits for a full CMS task.

I do not really care about credits, but it s definitly not working.
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Message 2708 - Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 10:05:04 UTC - in response to Message 2704.  
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My experience on SETI@home is that a modern high-end CPU gets ~1,000/day/core, a low-end gets ~500/day/core and my Tegra ARM machine gets ~150/day/core. It'd be nice if we were somewhere near these figures, for the volunteers who care about these indicators.
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Message 2721 - Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 15:37:57 UTC - in response to Message 2708.  

Someone is now doing well on Theory credits !
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Message 2726 - Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 16:17:44 UTC - in response to Message 2721.  
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I guess you meant me.
We will see, if it holds.
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Message 2728 - Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 16:23:03 UTC - in response to Message 2726.  

Mentioning no names, Rasputin, it stuck out like a sore thumb, Rasputin ;-)
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Message 2729 - Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 16:30:30 UTC - in response to Message 2728.  

Then you saw the extrely low credits before?
Justice! finally.
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Message 2730 - Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 16:41:34 UTC - in response to Message 2729.  

I did, but most of those ran under Anonymous Platform with a Peak FLOPS of 0.00 GFLOPS. Had you plugged a slide rule into a USB port to do the calculations ?
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Message 2731 - Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 16:52:22 UTC - in response to Message 2730.  

No, but an abacus (was a bit tricky to solder the usb cables to)
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Message 3264 - Posted: 5 May 2016, 12:37:34 UTC

Why are the points so low on this project?
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Message 3265 - Posted: 5 May 2016, 12:47:01 UTC - in response to Message 3264.  
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This is a testing project.
Credits are not that important here.
The main concern is to get the apps working properly.

EDIT: seems your CMS tasks are not starting properly.
They only run for a few seconds/min.
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Message 3617 - Posted: 30 Jun 2016, 8:06:20 UTC - in response to Message 3265.  

This is a testing project.
Credits are not that important here....

Why? For me, as a cruncher, credits are just as important here, as in any other project. Credits are the only expression of appreciation project owners give us crunchers.
And here, by the way, the credits are VERY low.
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