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Message 2361 - Posted: 12 Mar 2016, 7:23:35 UTC - in response to Message 2354.  

That would mean no fiddling like aborting, detaching, suspending, restarting etc.

BOINC isn't a clean world. All mentioned 'fiddling' is part of 'normal' behaviour by BOINC itself and BOINC users.

Your proposal is running the project under abnormal circumstances. It doesn't matter me, but the figures are polished then.
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Message 2365 - Posted: 12 Mar 2016, 10:06:27 UTC

We still have network problems at the University, so I may not be able to submit new jobs in time. Don't give up, but spare a thought for my blood-pressure...
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Message 2367 - Posted: 12 Mar 2016, 11:01:02 UTC - in response to Message 2361.  

Just to get some baseline figures on the errors.


That is the aim.
By reducing any "fiddling", we would get the errors caused by the system itself in a "steady state".

Yes, it is not real world, but that is not the point.

Then, it can be established, how many additional errors of what type are caused by fiddling.

Or in other words, if a car does not even work on a smooth road, why test it on a bumpy field.
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Message 2371 - Posted: 12 Mar 2016, 18:34:30 UTC - in response to Message 2365.  

We still have network problems at the University, so I may not be able to submit new jobs in time. Don't give up, but spare a thought for my blood-pressure...

Phew! Connectivity restored with just 21 jobs left in the queue...
New batch of 2000 unleashed (and I also enabled the batch-of-two I submitted the other day when I was trouble-shooting with Leo. :-)
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Message 2372 - Posted: 12 Mar 2016, 18:39:02 UTC

Well done!
Just in time.(again)

I was looking forward to seeing the tasks cycle.
Task download
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Tasks upload
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Isn't that what would have happened?
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Message 2373 - Posted: 12 Mar 2016, 18:43:21 UTC - in response to Message 2372.  

Tja, I guess you could say we got lucky.
I thought things were being restored when I could sporadically log on via WiFi from my office at 1420, but I did notice that the signal was weak (the local access-point is in the corridor outside the office). On reflection, that might have been my picking up an AP in an adjacent building!
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Message 2374 - Posted: 12 Mar 2016, 19:23:45 UTC

Looks like your 2-jobs-batch is being ignored.
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Message 2375 - Posted: 12 Mar 2016, 20:33:46 UTC - in response to Message 2374.  

Looks like your 2-jobs-batch is being ignored.

AFAICT they're just waiting their slot in the queue.
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Message 2386 - Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 23:21:18 UTC - in response to Message 2375.  

Looks like your 2-jobs-batch is being ignored.

AFAICT they're just waiting their slot in the queue.

I don't see any reason why those two jobs haven't run yet. :-/
The major batch is running down; I'm pleased with the failure rate reported by Dashboard! I'll give it another hour or so before the next batch (basically after I've finished tomorrow's crossword, due at midnight unless The Grauniad has another of its trademark failures...).
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Message 2387 - Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 23:34:24 UTC - in response to Message 2386.  

There are 5 failures from one IP address.Keeping fingers crossed for the remaining jobs.
I wonder, how many have followed the "don't fiddle" call?

How big is the next one going to be?
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Message 2388 - Posted: 15 Mar 2016, 0:45:14 UTC - in response to Message 2387.  
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There are 5 failures from one IP address.Keeping fingers crossed for the remaining jobs.
Are they all stahe-out failures?
I wonder, how many have followed the "don't fiddle" call?

How big is the next one going to be?

Just another 2,000 for now. The submit is going slowly...

[eesridr:src] > crab status
CRAB project directory: /home/eesridr/CMSSW_6_2_0_SLHC26_patch3/src/crab_projects/crab_CMS_at_Home_MinBias_250ev2000B
Task name: 160315_003721:ireid_crab_CMS_at_Home_MinBias_250ev2000B
Task status: NEW

No jobs created yet!
Log file is /home/eesridr/CMSSW_6_2_0_SLHC26_patch3/src/crab_projects/crab_CMS_at_Home_MinBias_250ev2000B/crab.log


[Edit 0131 UTC] Submit still pending. I'm going to sleep. There's a cron job that should activate the batch when it gets submitted. 'Night. [/Edit]
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Message 2389 - Posted: 15 Mar 2016, 5:44:03 UTC - in response to Message 2388.  

Batch finally came through at 0349 UTC.
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Message 2453 - Posted: 20 Mar 2016, 11:38:33 UTC

We are going to be out of jobs very soon.
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Message 2454 - Posted: 20 Mar 2016, 12:32:43 UTC

Thanks for putting a new batch on.
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Message 2455 - Posted: 20 Mar 2016, 12:38:20 UTC - in response to Message 2454.  

I try to keep an eye on it. :-)
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Message 2491 - Posted: 21 Mar 2016, 20:48:38 UTC

I try to keep an eye on it. :-)


I know, you are watching, but at this rate...
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Message 2492 - Posted: 21 Mar 2016, 21:49:27 UTC - in response to Message 2455.  

Thanks, Ivan!
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Message 2493 - Posted: 21 Mar 2016, 22:31:02 UTC - in response to Message 2492.  

Thanks, Ivan!

Toldya!
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Message 2569 - Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 13:25:39 UTC

Jobs are running low.
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Message 2570 - Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 15:57:20 UTC - in response to Message 2569.  

Jobs are running low.

Yeah, having problems submitting more:

[eesridr:src] > crab status
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CRAB project directory: /home/eesridr/CMSSW_6_2_0_SLHC26_patch3/src/crab_projects/crab_CMS_at_Home_MinBias_250ev10Kb
Task name: 160326_155343:ireid_crab_CMS_at_Home_MinBias_250ev10Kb
Task status: SUBMITFAILED
Failure message: CRAB3 refuses to send jobs to grid scheduler for 160326_155343:ireid_crab_CMS_at_Home_MinBias_250ev10Kb. Error message: Permission denied. Please check if you have access to write to destination site and your quota does not exceeded. CRAB3 refuses to send jobs to scheduler because of failure to transfer files to destination site.
Log file is /home/eesridr/CMSSW_6_2_0_SLHC26_patch3/src/crab_projects/crab_CMS_at_Home_MinBias_250ev10Kb/crab.log
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